GRID - hacks and hacking, trainers and others

Post by **Sethioz** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:18 pm

ofcourse it is recieving it from server, thats the whole thing, this is why i was surprised when Thuuning changed it, and it changed for others.
ive explained it many times, server side things cannot be changed, they only change for you, but not for others. its probably fixed and it does not need game update to be fixed.

i think that the bug was in their server system. so it temporarly stored data in your pc and when race was done, then your client sent that data back to server and then server updated it, but now they obviously fixed it, so server checks that there is no 'mysterious' adds to the points. for example if your points are stored in server, 303 points. you go into race, then server checks how many points you gained, if you gained 1 point, but server recieves like 303003 points back, then server detects the difference and simply won't update it.

SCFAdamVcG · Post by **SCFAdamVcG** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:18 am

good point there , I found a float of 4 bytes that only shows up in the leaderboard but.. I changed some other values,came out of the leaderboard,rankpoints were still the same but the game froze when loading the track..
So how would I go about sending a packet that confuses the server.. another thing .

Post by **Sethioz** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:52 am

you can't really 'confuse' server, as i said, it is obviously fixed.
if you wan't to play around with packets, then WPE pro and commview and with proxocket you can permanently modifiy packet/s once you have found what you looking for.

SCFAdamVcG · Post by **SCFAdamVcG** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:11 pm

hmm .. but wins wouldn't be patched?
thanks ,i'll figure out how to use that tool

gigablaster · Post by **gigablaster** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:13 am

hi there, i know you dont like grid much, but i think there could be something interesting to do with it still... when you complete career mode (or when you enter a cheat) you get a few bonus cars like ebay mustang, 2 bmws and a few others... is it possible to make it so that, instead of one of these cars, you get a porsche 911 gt3? this could be a way to drive the porsche in career other than in those "driver offer" challenges...

Post by **Sethioz** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:09 am

im quite sure i already explained how you can get the 911 and stock lacetti.
you just replace the cars with those, then you can replace handling and sounds too.

gigablaster · Post by **gigablaster** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:10 am

but replacing files (method you described earlier) means all bmws become porsches.

what i wanted is the following: cheats give you one zonda, one aston, one mustang, and two bmws. i wanted to make it so that, instead of two bimmers, i got one bmw and one porsche.

Post by **Sethioz** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:03 pm

oh, the BMWs use same model with different color theme ?
if that's the case, i have an idea, but i cant check. i deleted GRID long ago.
my idea is to find the place in game's memory where it tells game to load this specific car and the config for this car and replace it with porsche.

there's several methods you can use to find it, either just open "hex editor" in tsearch and just search for the bmw model (whatever the name was). for example if you find the right place in memory where game loads bmw model and replace it with porsche model, then once you select other car (just view it) and move back to bmw, it should load porsche instead.
with this one i could be wrong, but here goes:
you can use filemon and set bmw as filter (full name of bmw model file, cant tell you cuz i dont have game, it would be like bmw.mdl or something like this) then you run game in window and look in which point game loads it. that will give you an idea when game loads it so you know when it is loaded into game's memory and then find it.
basically it should be possible to make a trainer or write asm code (tsearch's easywrite) that will do this automatically after you have found it.

you can also use olly debugger to try to find the places where grid.exe loads the bmw model files. sry no tutorial about olly at this time, it is not that hard to figure out how to search. here's quick guide:
open olly
click file > open and open grid.exe (not when its running)
now once its loaded, click on that "M" button above (blue buttons) it opens "memory map"
right click on first address and select search. now into ASCii you type the name of the porsche model file (check it up in your game's directory).
see if it finds anything. and dont forget to try with both, case sensitive checked and unchecked.
if you do find something, see how many times it occurs there. now if im right about this, then you can replace the right one (the one that is ebay bmw or whatever) and then in game, it will always reload porsche instead of bmw.

*basically with this memory editing method, in one game i made game load the models that should never be loaded. it was shooter and i made myself appear as a grenade or some invalid model that was never appeared in game. however i did not change model name, there was value that simply told the game that model_blah is number 123 and model_supnat is 124. so it could be same in grid that each car has some value and it changes once you select car. there could be several methods, however in that game it was possible to change models directly too (by name), but then they only appeared offline and for you, other ppl online still saw you as default (this is why i used the other method).

> upload your grid.exe as attachment and i can check it for you (if attachment doesnt work, then use some share sites) or maybe you can email it to me > [email protected]

NOTE: filemon method is only if you can't find right bmw model in game's memory.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:49 pm

Hi, can explain me please a method to load an edited .csv (car and tyregrip) for online session ?
You can make a trainer where is possible to chose in real time the .csv load ?
Tyregrip.csv load into memory some string value, example i find the value of 100 but is string type, and my unique value under string value..
when i try to edit take no effect ingame.....
Thanks

Post by **Sethioz** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:50 pm

no, i do not have game anymore and i dont make trainers.

all that is explained already in earlier posts. how to change car in memory and how to find car in memory.
i tested it and it worked online. you just need to change right value.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:41 am

Is there a way to load directly an edited .csv and bypass the check of modified game files ?
Or edit the value into a memory by loading a full .csv file without edit single value ?
Thanks

Post by **Sethioz** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:36 pm

im sure there is, but i have not looked into this.
you can write a trainer like program to load your own .csv over the original, but reverse engineering and debugging is not really my field.
you would need to find the function that loads a specific .csv into memory and then modify it so it would load your .csv instead, but then it might still say that file is modified, if thats the case, then you would have to wait until .csv is loaded and then press hotkey on your trainer so it would load whole .csv into memory and like all trainers, you would write that new .csv into new place and then point game to that.

Tsearch has some good tutorials under help if you want to know about that. only thing i dont know, is how i could find the function that loads specific .csv. if i would have that i could probably write a trainer, but i wont (i have no interest in grid anymore).
however i can always point you into right direction.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:09 pm

Thanks Seth !!!!

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:42 pm

Hey Sethioz !! reinstall the game with 1.3 update !!! don't work the trick with address... this thread is out now, need new guide, need your technical help !!!

Post by **Sethioz** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:40 pm

don't work the trick with address

what trick with what address ?
you refer that address is not same ? or what are you talking about, somebody get me a changelog from 1.3. im sure you are trying the same addresses. you just need to find all again.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:13 pm

some address are not the same but i find the new address, just the value is changed the car is automatic banned/kicked from session !!
Reinstall the game please !! :) help us !!!
Need new guide..

Post by **Sethioz** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:32 pm

if you changed your values in memory and still got kicked, then it means that game now has memory check too, but i highly doubt, i have never seen or heard anything like this. most likely you did something wrong.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:36 pm

try,
i find the right value again !! and if I try to change the value even after the loading (when the car is on-street) I receive a automatic kick from session !!!

Post by **Sethioz** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:14 pm

as i said, it means that they have planted some kind of a memory check, but its still very weird. game's does not have it, they have external tools/programs to do that. like gameguard, hackshield..etc or in RE5 case it was that dumb 'windows live' shit.

UPDATE:

GRID Patch 1.3 changelog:

- Added support for additional content packs.
- Added support for Motion Platform D-Box.
- Increasing the maximum view distance by 1 km so it is possible to see the entire length of the hill roads on San Francisco
- Fix for personal best lap time not replacing world record lap time when playing without internet connection.
- Fix for race day personal best lap times only being valid for first race in a grid world event.
- Fix for being able to select too many different types of cars in multiplayer events Long Beach Battle and Drift Inter GP.
- Fix for being able to select the Pontiac GTO in multiplayer Touring cars events.
- Fix for vehicles bought on eBay applying performance modifiers when playing multiplayer events.
- Fix for being awarded 1 lap in online stats for freestyle drift events.
- Prevented the editing ebay.xml cheat

i don't see anything that could perform the check. I even don't see anything that could detect Tsearch.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:29 am

Sethioz wrote:as i said, it means that they have planted some kind of a memory check, but its still very weird. game's does not have it, they have external tools/programs to do that. like gameguard, hackshield..etc or in RE5 case it was that dumb 'windows live' shit.

i don't see anything that could perform the check. I even don't see anything that could detect Tsearch.

no Seth !! if you change the right memory value when the car is online, with t-search or mhs receive an instantly kick from session !!
try !!install the game !!!
sry but with 1.3patch this thread guide is totally out !! no more cheat for grid ?

Post by **Sethioz** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:18 pm

you telling me that multiplier and score and such things doesn't work either ?

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:02 pm

Sethioz wrote:you telling me that multiplier and score and such things doesn't work either ?

example: the address value of car weight... sometimes is 344...... sometimes is 345........ into range memory, if you edit the wrong value the car not change and run into the session,
but just find the right value is instantly kicked from session !!! no more address can be edited by t-search !!

is so hard for you after this great guide reinstall a 10min game and try to test this 1.3 update ??
With 1.3 patch don't work modding of ebay.xml and don't work anymore the hack of address value !!!
This thread need update, or is completely useless.

Post by **Sethioz** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:20 pm

i am not a gamer and i dont keep games. i said no and i mean it.
im not downloading grid again, i dont like that game and i have no interest in it.
this thread was never about hacking cars online, this topic is about hacking score and multiplier and time, this is where it started.

54321 · Post by **54321** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:07 pm

if any1 need Live help to do the hack just invite me on Xfire at (sam54321) without brackets and can sought you out

yogi · Post by **yogi** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:51 pm

hi guys i have watched the video tutorial on how to hack grid with tsearch, then i followed the instructions to thi website for more information.

im a noob at hacking etc but wanna learn more i have got as far as understanding what most of the lines in the hex stand for after reading in these posts i changed the hex to 1 line per command, but i get slightly confused when i load tsearch, when trying to find the lines i wanted all ihave for refference is the tutorial to change the suspension if anyone could help of point me in the right direction of a decent trainer ?

any help will be appreciated

Post by **Sethioz** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:23 pm

there are no trainers for these things, it is exclusively available only here.

once you have your car info in a file and one per line, then you can open game using Tsearch or any other memory editor and search for the values you see in the file. they exist many times, follow the part where i explained how to find the car in memory. my example was using courage i beliave, can't bother to read thru this right now.

for further info about how to hack, you can see the sticky threads under Game hacking or you can see Knowledge Database. just search there what you looking for, like "basic hacking".

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:43 pm

Thears much easier way cheat in online. But you must use retail version of grid, not 1.3.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Codemasters\GRID\gameconfig\ebay.xml

you can mod that file with hex editor, notepad dont work

here is my ebay.xml

it works so, you must buy used car in career mode with good history, many wins, no wrecks

then you can get very fast car for online

this not hacking, its modifien file.

its very effective cheat

Post by **Sethioz** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:54 pm

you added general stats ?
if you dealing with GRID, try the latest version, because i heard that they patched a lot of hacks there.
but again, i dont cheat, i only make PoCs (proof of concepts)

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:58 pm

minPerformanceIncPercentage 99maxPerformanceIncPercentage 99

i dont know how to put more increase with my hex editor, editor overwrites the next symbole, so i can put only 2 numbers.
"99"

i cheat with my friends with super fast vipers... lol

greath fun!

i have mayby seen ur name in xFire

grid is good lan party game

:)

Post by **Sethioz** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:12 pm

you have to use other hex editor, like xvi32 in order to insert a string.

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:18 pm

ok

thx

:)

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:41 pm

LOL

1234567

Post by **Sethioz** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:48 pm

no, you dont overwrite anything, you have to insert a string. take a look around.

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:05 am

i got it work

Post by **Sethioz** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:29 am

post detailed tutorial, im sure lot of ppl find it interesting.

GuyFromNorth · Post by **GuyFromNorth** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:39 pm

1. Get Freeware Hex Editor XVI32
http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delphi/f ... /xvi32.htm

2. Take backup of ur ebay.xml file

3. Use hex editor and open ebay.xml file

minPerformanceIncPercentage (add value you want, you can overwrite next letters if you want add very big value)
maxPerformanceIncPercentage (add value you want)

4. save as, if ur using vista, you cant save in "Program Files" folder or its sub folders

5. replace ur ebay.xml with ur modified ebay.xml file

6. start game

7. buy used car in career mode, with good history, many wins, no wrecks

8. test drive, if it didnt work, sold the car and buy better

9. that car will work in online

you must use retail version of grid.... not 1.3

Post by **Sethioz** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:09 pm

anything for 1.3 ? or its totally patched ? i dont have the game and im not planning on downloading it again.
ill pm you something after this post, look.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:25 pm

Sethioz wrote:anything for 1.3 ? or its totally patched ? i dont have the game and im not planning on downloading it again.
ill pm you something after this post, look.

For 1.3 still work t-search, but there are some conditions.. example.. if freeze values I got kick from multi-player and is impossible join session.
Only some values work...

Post by **Sethioz** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:21 pm

this thread needs a complete rewrite. its a mess.
any specific things guys ? like what works and what doesn't.

NOTE - check your PMs guys, regarding GRID.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:06 am

Sethioz wrote:this thread needs a complete rewrite. its a mess.
any specific things guys ? like what works and what doesn't.

NOTE - check your PMs guys, regarding GRID.

I have seen the PM, and read the wiki about grid hack..

ebay.xml don't work anymore on 1.3patch

Memory editing with t-search is the best way.
The problem is that I don't know exactly how work this kind of anti-cheat of 1.3.
I have some direct experience about that example:

Use mhs is not good idea 'cause freeze or unfreeze values, and is impossible to play. Player auto-kicked from session.
T-Search work good but only on the right address, and never freeze the value, but only set on-fly with hotkey.
Into a lobby never press hotkey, even is address are right game will eject the same from session.
I don't know what reason make a distinction from addrees with the same .csv value example mass:
1140 on 345287a0 work and no kick from session
1140 on 345281a8 work but player is eject by auto-kick from session..

Then is only a heavy work select manually all address of .csv loaded into a memory and workin without kick in game.
Must be found a way to bypass this kind of check, is not a full memory check but something of similar.

I'm not expert and I think some trainer maker for grid1.3 know good what is this kind of check....

P.S. this game is still very played into multiplayer, hope seth u will make some good hack tutorial !
pps. you will make an hack tutorial for the new f1 2010 from codemasters ?

Post by **Sethioz** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:40 am

i don't really know what it might be. most likely it scans for memory changes.
ive had a theory, which i proved to be right in avp2. once server sends you the "kick" packet, then you can block it and your client (game) thinks that nothing happend and you stay in session. this won't exactly bypass the check, but it would bypass the "kick". I would go with the packets on this one, if there is a check, then something must tell the game server that check was positive (hack detected) or negative (no hack detected) and if you are able to find the packet/s that tell server this, then you can make it go back as negative always. in theory it should work.

Luigi's proxocket is perfect for such packet blocking once you have found the right packet/s.

No, i will not work on this game anymore, maybe in future, but i doubt. this is why i PMed you guys.

F1, post into requests and add as much info as possible. also i took quick look and didnt even see that its released. so info and links there.

KITT · Post by **KITT** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:16 pm

OK I think is the right way, thank you !!!

I will try with to bypass 1.3check with this tool and maybe kick vote lolol....

whatsmynamedick · Post by **whatsmynamedick** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:45 am

Sethioz wrote:Here's tutorial on how to hack GRID using memory editor and HEX.
It shows you how to make TurboBoost hack. ofcourse i made it shorter and took out the place where i added hotkeys, but you can see what i have there. also i found a tool that allows you to run GRID in window mode ! ill attach it.
-GRID - hack tutorial - turboboost-

i just download grid launcher i launch the game but cheat not working wher i click?? thx

Post by **Sethioz** » Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:30 am

i dont understand what you talking about. what cheat ? what did you do ?
and if you havent noticed yet, i dont have cheats here. hacks and cheats are not same. cheats can be entered in GRID, in menu and they can be found by googling for "grid cheats"

if you having problems with hacks, then first thing to do, is to tell what did you do and what exactly is not working.
saying that you launched the game and its not working is senseless.
memory editor does not work ?
hack does not work ? > which one ?
game does not work / crashes ?

explain yourself.

MiracleMatter · Post by **MiracleMatter** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:40 pm

Hi every1, first time here for me...

I'd like to know if it would be possible to ( at least ) read the content of the profile files ( in "documents/Codemasters/GRID/savegame/autosave0" directory ).

As you may know, there always seem to be the same 15 files with strange names with no extention which -I assume- are encrypted in some way...

I have some experience in game hacking and modding mostly on N64 games which involved interpreting data that was unidentified but I've never touched anything that was encrypted or compressed and I really don't have the faintest idea where to begin with this.

One of the reason i'd like to be able to read those files on disk rather than using Tsearch is that I'd like to be able to script something ( in C++ hopefully ) that will, for example, show me instantly all the ebay motor offers and allow me to sort them and maybe perform various calculations.

Unless there is some other way...

Post by **Sethioz** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:03 am

unfortunetely i'm not into this sort of stuff, but if you prep a package for me (rar file with everything included) i could ask Luigi about it.
alternative is to ask on xentax forums, they do game modding and stuff, but IQ level in that forum is low, you ask them "how" and they ask "why do you even want to know" ..etc.
but with some patience you might get someone to write a tool or maybe there already is a tool to deal with savegames.