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We dont know much for now as in trailer not much is revealed.For now all we know is that it is set up in Los Santos with some surrounding mountains and beaches.
This is what rockstar said
We are very proud to officially announce that Grand Theft Auto V is in full development.

Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created.

A bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay and online multiplayer, Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California.

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The pic is from the trailer itself and the wall shows clearly that it is in Los Santos still some dumbfucks says it's not.
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by picture alone i would have said its gta 4, graphics look worse than in 4 actually, but maybe they realized that not everyone has a super computer to run gta 4 so they dropped graphics a bit.
who cares where it takes place, i doubt gta series ever gets better than san andreas, graphics were shit, but game itself was good. in gta 4 they purely went for graphics, small map, no planes..etc and worst game engine ever .. lags and crashes all the time.

just cause 2 beats all gta series anyway, however just cause 2 doesn't have so many features, its missing in those and physics aint best either, but thats just small tweaking. just cause 2 uses superiour engine to any other game ive seen. it haven't crashed on me, not even once during 80 hours of game time even with that huge map, it doesn't lag and runs well even on weaker pcs.
light effects are just superiour compared to any gta so far. specially sun effects, its as close to real as i have seen in any game.
so gta noobs have a lot to accomplish.
i have no doubts that its possible to make almost real life graphics, but its not just about graphics, its how well it runs on normal computers (ones that doesn't cost you 1 years salary). ofcourse you can buy some alienware computer for 10000 EUR which runs any game perfectly or get nVidia graphics server, with 16gb video memory and price around 8000 usd, but then they wouldn't sell more than like 1000 games worldwide.

good game is not only which has good graphics, but one that runs fine without lag.


UPDATE, i just noticed that this trailer, is not for PC, that explains the shitty looking graphics compared to gta 4. most likely once its released for ps3 and 360, it will be at least year until they release it for PC, just like all other series.
hopefully its gonna work on ps3 with older cracked firmware.
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San andreas is still the best gta game that's why it do matters that where it is taking place.In los santos and also in some point in trailer we can see a guy who looks exactly like Cj from san andreas so maybe it's a sequel to san andreas or something related to it.
Rockstar wont do same mistake as they did on gta 4 hopefully.
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no, they make brand new mistakes. biggest mistake in game industry, is that they use same old shit to make games.
copying stuff from old games is never a good idea, it gets boring and old. they have to make whole new story with new locations, something stunning.

if it would be up to me, i would call it "GTA World", make it about 30-40gb if necessary, add submarines and diving stuff, in other words, underwater combat and so you can attack ships using subs, also add huge cargo ships that can be piloted or explored, locked doors, some hacking system (like in deus ex for example) < these SMALL features, like adding submarines, will NOT take any space. all they need, is to add some handling lines to make it and small piece of code to make hackable locks or make it openable with key/s.
and finally, the biggest thing, i would make it possible to fly to space, so you would have space combat too. and maybe possibility to land on moon (obviously not whole moon, but some areas). all that, does NOT take more than 40gb space, but it would make it the best game ever.

also space weapons, like ION cannon, for example in one mission you have to steal some parts for ION cannon from military, then go to space with shuttle, put it together there and then from earth, you can control it with special controller (like that cellphone thing in gta 4) and finally at end of mission, it has to be used to blow up entrance to some underground bunker with ION cannon.
after missions are done, then you can still use ION cannon just for fun, it should have charge time, like 2-3 mins until you can use it again.

and get back what was taken out before, like trains in gta sa, put these back.
add feature so you can tow cars or place them on ship, ship them to some island and sell them.
make it so its extremely hard to earn money, so you would have to steal cars and sell them.
make ship cranes useable, so you have to pick cars up and put them on ship or if its a special vehicle ship, make the door useable and drive them in there and make it a save place, so all cars in the ship will be saved. so you can collect like 20 cars in it and then ship them at once.
they also need a REAL tank, not some wheeled shit, tanks were completely left out in gta iv, sucks.
and i mean a proper TANK, like its done in "prototype". prototype has one of the most realistic tanks, you can go over vehicles just like it happens in real life. so car wont blow up when you touch it, but you can drive over it, crush it.

add back the feature from gta 2, where you can attach/detach trailers (truck trailers and small car trailers).
make a winch feature for 4x4 vehicles, so you can do some serious offroading, like its done in some game with hummers (4x4 hummer if im correct)
add simulation for 4x4 and other cars, like it was in one small offroad game, where you can switch between 2wd and 4wd, enable/disable diffrential locks and switch to slow gear (for offroading).
all these, take no space or memory at all, while it would make things so much better and awesome. just small tweaks in handling and map them on buttons..is it really that hard ?? i could do all those small tweaks in weeks if i would have source and their team of 100 or more cant handle it .. pfff

then add more gadgets, like flashlight, nightvision, thermal vision, binoculars and such. jetpack, stealth camouflage ..etc ..etc
jetpack was one of the best things ever in gta series.

also could make some secret alien base on moon, where its possible to hijack some special alien ship, which is very well hidden and not made for retards with some blinking arrows over it, but a real secret place and hard to get. in general, more secret places that actually give you something, unlocks some special stuff.

instead of locking half of the map, like they like to do, make map free, but make it like in REAL life, that its almost impossible to steal a helicopter without proper equipment and tools. for example that you cant just run into police station and steal it. it should have locked doors, which either need key or explosives and special tool / skill to start helicopters and planes..and other machines.

and on top of that, they should add all weather elements, including snow and snowmobiles. so you cant even go into some places without special vehicle, like snowmobile. so you would get stuck with any other vehicle (unless its a tank) and make some places in caves, so you cant fly there either, but you have to use special vehicle.


i have so many ideas, can go on forever, while keeping space of the game around 40gb, which is NOT that much. they can reduce graphics and make all that. or better yet, they can make 3-4 versions of game available once you purchase. instead of changing graphics in menus, you download a version with specific graphics. for example HD textures take up a lot more space than low quality (obviously). ..and ppl who use HD textures, never use low definition textures and other way around = waste of space. while they could make 2 or more different versions instead. so if you buy DVDs, then you get all versions, but it would make it better to install and less space wasted. or if you download via steam, then you have choice, which version you want to play.
and then a test version, which has small area with all graphics so you can test, before downloading.

..if i should ever make a game, it would be the best game ever made.
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EPIC.. That is all i have to say :)
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These are 2 screenshots which I found.. These were released on rockstar games website couple of hours back:
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Rockstar released 3 new screenshots today and said "More to come this week".. We can expect a new gameplay trailer or something coming anytime soon..
here are the 3 new screenshots released today:
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Well so another 3 screenshots were released.. to be honest, the graphics looks most badass I've ever seen and the open world also seems like the best of the best!
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don't they always look best in released screenshots ?
i mean .. if they have the game in testing stage, why not post 100 screenshots ? it takes no effort to make screenshot and how come they have no HUD on it?
something aint right about them. might also be cutscenes ..etc

Just Cause 2 looks amazing too and i bet Just Cause 2 map is like 20 times the size of GTA V map.
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it looks pretty cool too..
the water in the screenshots are all different.. until now gta had same water everywhere, this time it seems to be different..
and that tennis screenshot shows a weird shadow at the bottom left cornor so the game is buggy right now maybe..
I think there will be 3 more screenshots today since there are 3 blank spaces at their website.They are releasing screenshots like everyday now.
They should release a gameplay trailer soon.
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4 new screenshots but posting only two and telling some info.. the guns now have "laser".. you get the laser aim just like in resident evil 4 and 5..
also another new thing is "waterfall".. which you can see in this screenshot:
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Look at the left corner of the screenshot you see there is a big waterfall which goes down the hill.

here is the laser screenshot and it also shows us San Fierro.. so the game is not just in los santos but also san fierro.. las venturas existence in game is still unknown..
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first screenshot looks so much like Just Cause 2, but i HIGHLY doubt they got it running that well.
second screenshot looks nearly like GTA IV. showing this to someone who don't know its GTA V, might easily say its GTA IV.

only thing left to know, is how well it will run. GTA IV runs fairly good on mine, but rockstar is known to fuck up game engines and produce lot of lag and bugs. for example GTA IV was barely playable on my old PC (2.8ghz dual core, 3gb ram, 1gb GT 240) and this kind of PC aint that bad. other new games were very playable @ 720p.
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I guess even the gtx 550ti won't be enough to run Gta 5 >>If there is PC version.<<
The PC version is not announced yet and in the Game Informer magzine and wiki, the only platform listed are "PS3 and 360" so it's possible there is no PC version until the end of 2013 which will make Rockstar look gay for months.Just hope they port it better than they did gta 4.

Game Informer magzine had alot of info about the game. There are 3 main story lines and 3 main character, you can switch any time between them.
I'm uploading the page which makes me think PC's will be fucked.Also the map is going to be bigger than GTA San Andreas, GtA IV And Red Dead Redemption all three combined!
You can use scuba suit / equipment and explore the very highly detailed ocean floor along the los santos coastline.
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they all sound good, but they never are.
PS3's GPU is only 550mhz, while mine is 1800mhz and 360 is 500mhz, but again console graphics suck compared to PC.
i might download it for ps3 tho, but im sure it's horrible on console, i don't understand how people can prefer consoles over pc, its horrible. graphics suck, its laggy, sluggish, controls suck, no modding, can't video capture to make videos of game ...etc ..etc

yes you can go underwater, but i doubt there are any sub-marines.
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the game will put consoles to their limits so expect it to be more of a fuck up on consoles.
Scuba diving equipment is confirmed but no mention of submarines as of yet.
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graphics dont look that good actually, if you pay attention to details, it isn't much better than gta iv.
look at the way tarmac goes, it has sharp angles, not smooth angles. same with car details.
just cause 2 graphics might even be better than gta v.
in fact just cause 2 has amazing environmental graphics, if you go very close they aint that good, but screenshots made under right angles, it is real-like looking.

for example in just cause 2, trees only have 1 angle, in fact trees turn when you turn. that is extremely old method, that was used in Wolf3D and Tomb Raider to get higher FPS. in JC2 they have just hid it a lot better and you won't really notice it at all, unless you are exactly on top of a tree and rotate around (using helicopter is only way really).
that's why JC2 has quite good graphics and FPS at same time.

however i doubt they have achieved that in gta v, gta series have always sucked in graphics and resource usage ratio.
gta iv doesn't actually need much. when it came out, computers just costed a lot more and that's why kids said "omg i cant play wtf it wants super pc". i got quad core 3.6ghz and 2gb gtx550ti and i can run it just fine @ 1080p and few things on max + custom, HD car mods and i get 30 - 50fps.
i haven't really tried without car mods, but im sure i would get 40 - 60fps easily.
setting it on max, now that's different story.
gta iv has extreme view distance, which usually fucks you up. it can easily use up that 2GB graphics memory, so 3 or more is needed to set it on max. or maybe it is because of my car mods, they do take a lot more memory than normal cars.

i think i will give it a try on ps3, can't bother waiting over a year for pc version. that is ofcourse, if i get cracked version to run, there is no way i buy that. no point at all.
console games suck big time.
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On wiki it says they used same engine they used for gta 4. Since the map is hella alot bigger and also the draw distance is great in gta 5, we know where it's heading.
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For holidays they released more screenshots and submarines were confirmed to exist in game.
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Is it true that it only only will arrive for xbox360/ps3?
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i doubt, probably same as with rest of the GTAs. first consoles, then after a while, months or even a year for PC.
i hate consoles, they're so slow and graphics suck.
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Legu wrote:Is it true that it only only will arrive for xbox360/ps3?
They didn't mention PC yet and this is probably just one of their "NEW" way to avoid piracy. They think if they say there will be no PC version, and release it later , less people will pirate it.
There will be a PC version. There are too many clues for that,example:
  • Rockstar wrote on Steam News the same day it was announced it would be out for consoles Spring 2013 (console games aren’t announced there unless they are also planned for the PC platform).
Also there is this petition that was started: http://www.change.org/petitions/rocksta ... ta-v-on-pc
I doubt Rockstar will turn down the request of 100,000+ fans and also they should understand that modding is what makes most of the GTA as much fun as they are so a PC version is a must.
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I hate consoles aswell, shitty things, and i dont understand why they care about that pirate shit that well...xbox version will get cracked aswell, ofc ppl wont use them as much as the pc versions cracked but still. i believe if a game is good, companies make profit. if the game sux, no protection will make it sell good.
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I don't think they mention PC version before console version. as far as i know, every GTA in history have came out on consoles and then 1 month - 2 years later on PC.

yes Legu you're correct about piracy.
for example, person who has money, will buy the game. to us (who deal with computers daily bases), it is common sense and every day life to download something, but to lot of people, it is a "miracle" that you can get software free if you torrent it. in fact they don't even know what torrent is.
and people who do not have money, would never buy the game anyway.
to me, it is about princeable. even if there is no PC version, i won't be buying PS3 version. I will try and get it to work on my jailbroken PS3. im sure there is a way.
it's complicated on PS3, i tried MGS4 and it started to crash in one place, there were many fixes for it out there, but i couldn't really bother.

i also got Gran Turismo 5 on PS3 and sometimes it is acting up and i need to reinstall it to be able to play, but once again i hate consoles.
GT5 takes 3-5 minutes (no joking here) to load 1 track / stage and sometimes whole race lasts less than that, so you end up waiting more than game is worth + GT5 compared to GT 1 - 4 is extremely short.
so what im saying, GT5 seemed so awesome and all, but actually it sucks very bad. I bet there is something about GTA 5 that makes it bad. well GTA IV is really good actually and hopefully GTA 5 has everything that GTA IV has and more, but usually games that look very good are made to look good, because in reality they suck.
this is why i mentioned GT5, it looked so awesome, but turned out to be big disappointment.

I mean .. i can't even imagine how it is possible to play GTA IV on console like PS3. graphics must suck a lot. only game i have had on PS3 and PC was NFS Shift 2 and when i compared graphics ... damn. There was huge difference between PC and PS3 and my PC graphics weren't even on max.

All these screenshots they release are made on PC, i hope everyone realize that. There are lot of little dumb kids out there who say like "WOWOWOWOW look at that screenshot, its better than on pc !!!!"
all games are developed on PC and their systems are not released to public, at least i have never seen anything. They do not use emulators, they develop games on PC and take all these screenshots using MAX graphics, which never get even implanted in the released version. if they realize that such graphics would not run on PS3 / 360, then they just replace textures with lower res textures, but they leave these super good screenshots.
also another "business trick" is to take screenshots of cutscenes, i have seen that so many times.
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Exactly what Seth said. Also when we look closely, the graphics of GTA 5 are not even that good. They are kinda cartoonish, more realistic graphics is what I saw in the gameplay trailer of "Watch Dogs".It's from Ubisoft, they make awesome games.
Just incase someone missed, Glass Shadow missing in trailer 2 of GTA 5:
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Not the only thing to notice,there's lots more.

For GTA 5 I'm curious about how the 3 player thing will work. You have 3 different characters to play as which you can switch anytime during the game.Each have their own stories but also connected to the other two.
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On 29 April, 2013 Rockstar posted an article which mentions that you can submit your photograph and one of the lucky person will get to be in the game as a character.
You can read about the article >> HERE <<
They will be accepting the photographs till the end of May 2013 I think.
This is quite cool. Not much luck but won't harm to give it a shot.
Whoever wins it will be such a lucky person :)
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quite nice concept, but i wouldn't want myself as character there, unless i would be main character or alien from outer space with a laser :)

i thought its out on consoles arleady?!

anyway, i think there is better game coming this year, its called Watch Dogs. seems lot better than GTA series, but will see. trailers are always better than game itself, however in Watch Dogs trailer you see the gameplay itself, they have quite few videos, showing all the toys and features.
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The character is someone who will belong to Epsilon cult so he will have a big role in the game :)

It was delayed and gta V will now be out in september 2013 on consoles, no news for pc version yet.

On Thursday - 2nd May, 2013 we will see a gameplay of GTA 5. Watch dogs is just badass, no doubt. It's from Ubisoft(they make awesome storylines and games in overall) and the gameplay they showed of Watch Dogs makes all available stuff of gta 5 cry. We'll see gta 5's gameplay in a day or two so its not a long wait. Both games will be great I suppose.
I loved san andreas so getting back to los santos will bring back all the feels from those good old day :')
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GTA 5 includes paranormal / supernatural stuff:

1. Bigfoot: Appears for a very few seconds during the mission "Predator". Zoom in with your thermal vision scope near the jungle to spot him.

2. Alien: Stuck inside the frozen water in the 1st mission. Go off to the right when escaping in the car to find a frozen river (or just a canal maybe, not sure)

3. Ghost: Appears between 23:00 and midnight on some mountain or cliff, I dont know the exact since I dont play on consoles but the ghost appears and leaves a name written in blood which is also the name of the Mayor of Blane county in the game. Now go to look for his info on some site and you find that his wife died falling off a cliff. Connect the dots and he killed his wife by pushing her off the cliff.

There's probably alot more stuff, R* has done a good job with these and easter eggs this time.
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